Best Winter Car I've Ever Had

"Forgetful" (forgetful) 11/14/2014 at 18:25 • Filed to: None

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Just needed a block heater and a set of nokian hakkapeliittas.

I have to temper the urge to scandi flick every other corner.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:29

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Dude.. why'd you need to do Scandi flicks in a RWD car with enough power to do throw the rear out with a "stomp" on the "go faster" pedal? Scandi flicks on FWDs and AWDs :)

Tareim - V8 powered > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:34

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what's this all about then

jkm7680 > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:36

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Looks good, Extra points for steelies.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:45

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How far north are you? That shit looks intense.

Forgetful > Tareim - V8 powered 11/14/2014 at 18:47

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Block heater.

Forgetful > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 11/14/2014 at 18:48

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Misworded that I guess.

Forgetful > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 11/14/2014 at 18:49

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Red Deer Alberta. About an hour north of Calgary.

It was -25 Celsius last night. -12 right now. It's awful.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:50

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I was genuinely curious though mate :) Not trying to be condescending :) Just curious.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 18:54

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It's okay where I am now, but it's going to get pretty cold later. According to google, it's going to hit like 62 degrees out. I might have to close my windows.

Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 11/14/2014 at 19:03

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we have over a foot in central Oregon.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 11/14/2014 at 19:06

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He can do it if he wants to, it's only an entry procedure after all. Not sure if more sideways is ever a bad thing

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 11/14/2014 at 19:07

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Sure sure, 'twas just a question :)

sefeing, actually bought an E46 > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 19:26

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can anyone explain to me exactly why one would need a block heater?

Forgetful > sefeing, actually bought an E46 11/14/2014 at 19:30

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When it's really cold your oil gets thick and doesn't get around quickly enough, potentially causing damage. The block heater warms the oil so that it's viscous enough to quickly lubricate the engine on a cold start. You plug your car in a few hours before you want to start it (most people just leave them plugged in overnight) and it starts easy.

Forgetful > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 11/14/2014 at 19:32

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It is power oversteers that I do most often. It's stupid easy and it lets me experience the beautiful balance the car has.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 19:49

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Plenty of thumbs up mate.

kanadanmajava1 > Forgetful 11/14/2014 at 20:09

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I once spent one winter in Finnish Lapland as a test engineer. There every car is plugged to an electrical outlet if it they are parked for more than an hour.

Many new cars don't any more have proper block heaters (heater element mounted in a place of a freeze plug) and they are just clamped against some pocket in the block but they aren't in direct contact coolant. But here nearly every new car has some kind of engine heating device.

Could studded Hakkapeliitta tires be legal in Canada?

Forgetful > kanadanmajava1 11/14/2014 at 20:16

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Studs are legal here. Not Canada wide mind you. I think they are still banned in Ontario.

Tareim - V8 powered > Forgetful 11/15/2014 at 04:51

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ah ok

sefeing, actually bought an E46 > Forgetful 11/15/2014 at 15:07

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Nice! That's pretty cool. I've always wondered.

 V8 Rustler > Forgetful 11/16/2014 at 13:39

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Steelies ftw

lonestranger > kanadanmajava1 11/16/2014 at 14:40

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In British Columbia, they're permitted from October 1 to April 30. The Oct. 1 date is pretty ridiculous, though, because it's the same day that winter tires are required by law on our mountain highways.

kanadanmajava1 > lonestranger 11/17/2014 at 02:31

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In Finland winter tires are required from December to March but studs are optional.

lonestranger > kanadanmajava1 11/17/2014 at 03:33

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Studs are optional in B.C. as well.

The problem I see with the regulation here is that if your sole set of winter tires are studded, you can't legally drive with them before Oct. 1, and you can't drive without them (on many highways) after Oct. 1. Unless you change them in your driveway, you'll be breaking at least one of the laws.

Anyway, I think studs are great only for a short time, at least on older, cheaper designs. Once they get worn, they get rounded and act like ball bearings. Given the choice between an older-style snow tire with studs and a modern soft-compound, heavily siped winter tire (like Hakkapeliittas, Blizzaks, etc.), I'll take the sipes every time.

kanadanmajava1 > lonestranger 11/17/2014 at 10:50

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Its slightly different situation here. Studded are only legal for short time but M+S is okay in all times. But here nearly all vehicles have two sets of tires.

But we can change to studded winter tires before December if the weather starts to become icy. Usually we switch to winter tires when the first cold days arrive in October (I have had them for two weeks now). And in the spring the studded tires have to be removed after ice season has ended. The extreme deadline is fixed to the Easter holidays (which move yearly).